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Hengle Teron
Just Another Corp XIV
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Posted - 2015.03.21 21:50:24 -
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I see people having problem with the 15 days time frame.
It is the logical choice.
Because there are a lot of trial accounts, that do not subscribe.
If ganking would drive them away, it's only that 15 days time frame when that gank could have happen. |
Hengle Teron
Just Another Corp XIV
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Posted - 2015.03.21 23:56:01 -
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Demetri Dentrov wrote:Scipio Artelius wrote:Demetri Dentrov wrote:People starting a new game have an expectation of a cadenced presentation, one that provides content that is level specific for them.
Eve has none of that. When was the last time you ran the full NPE? Last October. I did, I think, 80% of the Career missions, I don't recall if I did more than a few level 1 missions in the first 15 days... Interestingly, i was "illegally ganked" in that time frame (Mining in a .5 system in my free Venture. LOL) So I guess that makes me a "1%er" What I realized during the 15 days is that I've been to all the "different" kinds of system (In any really meaningful terms... If you've been to one system with planets, asteroid belts, stations, and people that will kill you, you've been to essentially all of them.) and that there were only 2 real jobs.... make isk or gank. There IS a third choice, be a soldier in the Null Sov game. I made a couple billion isk in a few months, I don't have any interest in ganking, and I'm no one's on demand defense shield. Instead of quiting after 15 days, and not being a broke teenager, I subscribed and then started 2 other accounts so I could multi-box (It's fairly clear that there is considerable advantage in doing that.) I ran out of content at about the 3 month point. So I think I put far more effort into trying to give the game every benefit of the doubt than the majority of people would. It's not a bad game, far from it. Some of the mechanics are quite inspired, and there is a satisfying aspect to the complexity of many of them. It just isn't for the majority of people. when you narrow it down like that,
every mmo has only those two options: either farm or pvp |
Hengle Teron
Just Another Corp XIV
44655
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Posted - 2015.04.02 21:43:43 -
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The sky is green, I tell you.
I saw it with my own damn eyes. |
Hengle Teron
Just Another Corp XIV
44719
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Posted - 2015.04.03 15:30:04 -
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Or you can cry in Hek local to get everyone banned, when you get your retriever blown up. |
Hengle Teron
Just Another Corp XIV
44723
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Posted - 2015.04.03 17:46:44 -
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Well, if you watch the presentation, which is the basis of this threadnaught, you would know what they meant by new player.
I think, it said something like 50% of trial accounts are not subbed.
And they wanted to know, why those players choose not to sub. They heard from some players over and over, that ganking drives new players away, so they looked into that. And they found, that those claims have no basis.
Then followed this thread, that tries to discredit that data, with no data of their own to base it on. |
Hengle Teron
Just Another Corp XIV
44728
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Posted - 2015.04.03 21:05:26 -
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Mia Keldarin wrote: - It takes too much time to be good at something, learning game mechanics faster than the SP is going. Vets SP advantage was also a problem.
Is it really, or did you just dismiss your loss as a matter of SP?
When in reality that player with more SP did also know more about what he was doing and how to better fit his ship? |
Hengle Teron
Just Another Corp XIV
44735
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Posted - 2015.04.03 22:35:41 -
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snipe |
Hengle Teron
Just Another Corp XIV
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Posted - 2015.04.03 22:58:34 -
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Dots wrote:I wondered how long it would take you to turn this thread into LAGL.. Then this thread would finally have a purpose. |
Hengle Teron
Just Another Corp XIV
44753
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Posted - 2015.04.04 02:11:53 -
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Eli Stan wrote:Tyberius Franklin wrote:I can't really think of a way in which the tutorial can overcome that limitation. It can only progress you through things it can quantify, social interaction usually being more difficult in that regard. Honestly I'm still of the opinion that letting veterans initiate contact more easily is the best cure for the social ills plaguing the NPE (For instance, allow veterans into NPC corp chats without abandoning their current corps for recruiting/whatever purposes). Hmm... That's an interesting idea... Instead of putting all new players into a new-player-only chat which just perpetuates the isolation from the general player base, put them into a newbie chat that veteran players can join? During the trial period it's mandatory, but afterwards the newbie can elect to leave that chat. Call it "Ask A Vet" or something, with color coding indicating players who have subscribed. No linking of contracts, in order to help cut down on scamming. (Scamming being a perfectly fine thing later, but lets not skim off the trial accounts just yet...) Of course, this opens an avenue for vets to troll, but that's already possible in NPC corp chat, local chat, etc. There's this thing called the "help" channel, might be of interest to you. |
Hengle Teron
Just Another Corp XIV
44753
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Posted - 2015.04.04 02:53:36 -
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they do auto join the help channel |
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Hengle Teron
Just Another Corp XIV
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Posted - 2015.04.04 12:35:44 -
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Fun fact:
According to a rather popular theory, mankind populated the Earth by a series of incests. |
Hengle Teron
Just Another Corp XIV
44780
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Posted - 2015.04.04 18:04:43 -
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True facts are not trolling.
It was off topic, I give you that. |
Hengle Teron
Just Another Corp XIV
44788
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Posted - 2015.04.05 02:52:34 -
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One step forward, two steps back. |
Hengle Teron
Just Another Corp XIV
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Posted - 2015.04.05 15:31:08 -
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Dracvlad wrote:Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Dracvlad wrote:Derailing this thread, that is what you are doing, all I am doing is pointing out how fail in game you are! How is that relevant to the thread? Why is my lack of killboard so important to you? Would you like to buy a weeks membership for the Jonah Gravenstein Fanclub, only 50 Million Isk from your nearest Concord agent? You said this is your main and yet no kills and yet you talk as if you have 5000 kills, its sad, the same goes for Kaauros, he is a logi pilot flying with CODE who gank with catalysts and yet not a single kill is seen. Y A W N !!!!!!! on the other hand, whoring on concord lossmails makes someone |
Hengle Teron
Just Another Corp XIV
44811
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Posted - 2015.04.05 16:02:45 -
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Dracvlad wrote:Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Hengle Teron wrote:on the other hand, whoring on concord lossmails makes someone Saw that coming. Still zero kills on your page mate EDIT As for me: Dracvlad which is my main 685 kills 82 losses My other PvP account 451 kills 21 losses who flies in conjunction with Dracvlad and would take his place for certain types of fleet ships if I was not dual boxing My dedicated blow anything up PvP account was about 2625 kills 857 losses, the majority of that was solo, I gave that account away to a friend in 2012.blowhard... now, do you want to repeat that to a GM or should we ? |
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